Mountain Spring Farm Doodles
Previous MSF mini goldendoodle pup
photo by Deb Kesecker
About Us and our Doodles
We have been breeding Goldendoodles, Labradoodles and Labs for 18 years on our family farm.
We focus on producing puppies of excellent health and temperament to be the "perfect family pet". Many of our clients return for second or third pups to help complete their families.
A DOODLE PRIMER - Labradoodles and Goldendoodles are primarily crosses between a Poodle and either a Labrador Retriever or a Golden Retriever.The "original" recognized doodle was the Labradoodle. It is generally accepted that the Labradoodle breed was first developed and popularized in Australia, mainly to meet a need as an easily trainable, well tempered dog to be used as a guide dog for persons with allergies. The predominant breeds were/are Labrador Retriever and the standard Poodle. But there were small percentages of other breeds infused to add desirable traits. Various crosses, or generations exist and various sizes are possible. An "F1" doodle is a 50/50 cross (one parent at Poodle, generally a standard or large size one, and the other parent either a Lab or Golden Retriever.) An "F1b" is an F1 doodle bred or "backcrossed" to Poodle. The resulting puppy is a 75/25 cross, being 75% poodle and 25% retriever. This generation generally has a curlier or "fleecier" coat and is more consistently low shedding or nonshedding. An "F2" doodle is simply two F1 doodles bred together - so they are still a 50/50 cross. A "multigen" or multigeneration doodle generally goes further with the crosses and applies to many more complicated crosses. These pups may be an "F3" or may be a result of breeding F1b to F1b, or F1b to poodle - or dozens of other possibilities. Generally, it is more difficult to determine what "percentage" of poodle and retriever these pups are, but most, if not all, have more poodle than retriever in them.
A newer doodle cross in this family is a "Double Doodle", sometimes called a
"North American Retriever". They are a cross between the Labradoodle and the Goldendoodle. It is no surprise that the appearance, coat type, low shedding and intelligence found in both labradoodles and goldendoodles also are found in the double doodle. There is also a potential advantage. Many people think there is a health advantage to the double doodle, because any "breed specific" health conditions are further "diluted" and therefore are less likely to be found in the double doodle.
Doodle sizes are divided into:
-standard (the poodle parent would be a standard or large poodle), so pups are typically between 48-75#
-medium (at least one parent is a small or medium size poodle or doodle) and pups are between approx 34-46#.
-small or "mini" (generally both parents are small or mini size, though in some cases only one parent is small) and pups are usually between 24-36#.
-petite mini (there is usually a toy size poodle or doodle as a parent or grandparent to get this smallest size) and pups are usually 15-20#. This is the
rarest size and the most expensive .
We breed all generations and sizes listed above, though availability will vary from time to time.
A word about health:
We take care to select ideal "parent" dogs, paying particular attention to heath and temperament.. Hip dysplasia is the most common health issue found in many breeds, including Standard Poodles, Golden Retrievers and Labrador Retrievers. While doodles are generally very healthy as a breed, hip dysplasia is also a problem that can be encountered in this breed, as it is found in the "root breeds" of the doodle. This is more true for the full (standard) size dogs, rather than the miniature dogs. Hip dysplasia is usually a result of multiple factors. There is often a genetic tendency for this, as well as environmental factors. It is known that excess stress on a young dogs legs/hips, from over activity/exercise or from excess weight will increase the risk of hip dysplasia. Young dogs that are allowed to jump down elevated surfaces (vehicles, furniture) have excess stress on their developing hips and legs. It is important to take measures to reduce this risk in your puppy. All our original male breeding stock, as well as most of the females, were OFA tested prior to beginning our doodle breeding program around 2004. We are now breeding second and third generation doodles, as well as some new breeding stock, and have not had issues with hip dysplasia. However, it is important to understand this can still occur, as well as other health problems that are unforeseen. While we do have a standard 3 day health guarantee (that the puppy is healthy without any significant health issues), we do not offer any long term health guarantees. However, should one of our puppies be diagnosed with severe and symptomatic (crippling) hip dysplasia prior to 24 months of age, we will offer a replacement puppy OR refund of purchase price (this choice would be at our discretion). Similarly, should one of our puppies be diagnosed with an undisputable genetic disorder that causes its death prior to 12 months of age, we will provide a replacement puppy of similar generation/size/type and value.
In any of the above cases, we must be notified within 3 days of a health issue being identified.
Policies (registration papers/breeding rights/deposits):
We are breeding our doodle puppies with the intent for them to be loving family members and pets. As such, we strongly recommend your puppy be spayed or neutered around 6 months of age. This will not only prevent unwanted pregnancies, which may endanger the health of your dog, but also reduces the chance that they will wander off or be lost. To that end, we are no longer offering CKC registration papers on our puppies.
A deposit may be made to hold an early choice from a litter. The deposit of $300 WILL apply to the total cost of the puppy. The order that deposits come in is the order that families will choose their pup from the specified litter. Should a pup of specified gender from the litter reserved from not be available, the deposit will be refunded OR you may choose to move it to another litter. Please be aware when placing a deposit the we are agreeing to hold a spot for you from a particular litter and in turn, you are agreeing to purchase the puppy from that litter. While the deposit is not refundable should you change your mind or something comes up that prevents your getting the puppy from that litter, you may transfer the deposit to another litter. Please ask for any clarification regarding this prior to placing a deposit.
3584 AL HWY 174
SPRINGVILLE, AL 35146-6012
Email: [email protected] (best way to contact us)
Phone: landline (not checked frequently): 205-467-0258
All visits are by appointment only. We mostly accommodate visitors on the weekends, though weekday appointments are often possible too. ** See new limited visitation policy due to COVID-19** Please email or call for any questions, or to set up an appointment.